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Rad Hazard Because R-Truth so black, he look black like a monkey with his black ass.


Number of posts: 1559 Age: 24 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Federation(s): GBYWN AKA: Daniel Baldwin
Former GBYWN Chairman (11/25/09-3/19/11)
The current Battle Born Wrestling World Champion
Only ever 3-time GBYWN United States Champion
The host of Backyard Wrestling Monthly
GBYWN Rep: 573 Registration date: 2008-11-17
 | Subject: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it''s titles after "death" Wed May 20, 2009 2:40 am | |
| Today i was struck with the depressing news that BBW World Heavyweight Champion Adan Reyes will be shutting down his NEW GENERATION WRESTLING promotion very soon. This will lead to BBW no longer having a Utah Territory and on a personal level leaves a small dent in my armor as NGW was the veyr firts fed to join the BBW alliance proper. They started it all. So when i heard that their 7 year (i believe) run was coming to an end, my first reaction was ... why can't we move it to another roster?
Now this may seen awkward but it's been proven to work before. AWE in new york wrestled with the same roster in a high school gymnasium for almost 7 years before shutting down. when it did so the co-owners split up, but with the blessings of the other, one of the owners located a new federation of wrestlers that had JUST begun aring matches on youtube and asked them to continue to AWE name. The yquickly accepted and the AWE titles and logo went to then, giving them the opportunity of a lifetime in keeping the AWE legacy alive while AWE gained a second wind in it's excistence.
Another example is just keeping the titles alive. GWC did this with their 3-W Championship. The 3-w title is the undesputed oldest title around today, reeching back to the late 80's and never being out of circulation for more than a year at a title (mostly it did stay active thoughout it's lifetime). With it's long and historic lineage it continues to be a major title in the GWC and BYW as a whole today. Why can't more titles be like this?
So that was my thinking. Why couldn't adan take the NGW name and titles and give it to another local Utah fed to continue on in it's proud tradition. Well he cited ecw as what could happen to ngw. it could easily be tarnished by a bad roster or storylines that would NEVER have happened in adan's NGW, but i thinkthat, even if that were to happen, which i doubt, the ngw fans could see that this was a different ngw, and NGW 2.0 if you will, and would not tarnish what they had done in their prime with the promotion.
So now i ask you, the GBYWN board, what do you think? should popular/semi-popular federations that are about to die like XIW, NGW and NWD (all of which are bbw territories) attempt to continue their legacies and lineages by giving their fed names and/or titles to other up an coming groups or should byw continue to be a sea of random feds that are more known for the individual backyard wrestlers like shawn mathews than the feds they wrestle in?
It seems that feds are coming and going all the time, and i personally think that there needs to start being more solidarity in our community, and continuing the lineages of feds and titles is a GREAT way to do that. Please comment and tell me what you think. |
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 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Wed May 20, 2009 2:56 am | |
| This is a well thought out idea, Rad. I can agree with most points. But you have to remember. NGW was created by those particular wrestlers and the NGW name will forever live with them. When NGW ends it will end perfectly with it's legacy without the chance of anything "tarnishing" it. The titles it touched throughout it's life, like the BBW title, will always have their name tacked to them. It's more important to attach your legacy to a community. That and I don't know if I could trust any other fed to keeping the ideals and mission of my own fed and I couldn't expect the same from NGW. NGW is theirs and they should keep it as their own perfect little project that they finally finished. If they wanted to do as you suggest then they would acrue the benefits you've expressed or suffer the "tarnishing" of their product. Either way is fine, but I feel feds should do what they think is best. |
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Luke Lectric I Deserve A Twitter Following


Number of posts: 3010 Age: 15 Location: Godfrey, Illinois Federation(s): BNLW in the summer, BYW Fan right now, Super Spag Wrestling GBYWN Rep: 525 Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Wed May 20, 2009 8:45 pm | |
| Well I guess Adan and the guys really want to focus on pros and indies. Ehh they had a long ride. |
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Faucher ESPN Broadcaster


Number of posts: 1303 Age: 19 Location: NY Federation(s): SIW(New York) AKA: Fauch GBYWN Rep: 599 Registration date: 2009-03-15
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Wed May 20, 2009 10:36 pm | |
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Rad Hazard Because R-Truth so black, he look black like a monkey with his black ass.


Number of posts: 1559 Age: 24 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Federation(s): GBYWN AKA: Daniel Baldwin
Former GBYWN Chairman (11/25/09-3/19/11)
The current Battle Born Wrestling World Champion
Only ever 3-time GBYWN United States Champion
The host of Backyard Wrestling Monthly
GBYWN Rep: 573 Registration date: 2008-11-17
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Thu May 21, 2009 8:19 pm | |
| | Luke Lectric wrote: | | Well I guess Adan and the guys really want to focus on pros and indies. Ehh they had a long ride. |
A long ride? adan only started in the fall of 2007. When i think long rides i think 5+ years. |
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Rad Hazard Because R-Truth so black, he look black like a monkey with his black ass.


Number of posts: 1559 Age: 24 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Federation(s): GBYWN AKA: Daniel Baldwin
Former GBYWN Chairman (11/25/09-3/19/11)
The current Battle Born Wrestling World Champion
Only ever 3-time GBYWN United States Champion
The host of Backyard Wrestling Monthly
GBYWN Rep: 573 Registration date: 2008-11-17
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Thu May 21, 2009 8:19 pm | |
| | Mike AKA KataLYST wrote: | Have we met?  |
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Adrian Blaqueheart FREE NICK GAGE.


Number of posts: 4405 Age: 19 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Federation(s): ABW (defunct), MXW AKA: Nicholas GBYWN Rep: 1553 Registration date: 2008-12-01
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Thu May 21, 2009 9:21 pm | |
| Man, I never got to wrestle Adan. I should have seen this coming with all of the indy matches he's been uploading. Are they actually leaving backyard wrestling or are they just closing NGW so they can work indy and collaborative BYW shows more? Is he going to have to drop the BBW Title? HAS HE ALREADY LOST IT!? THE WORLD IS GOING TO EXPLODE!
I like your idea but what JLV says is true. Sometimes it's best to just let something die for fear of its reputation being tarnished. Plus, up-and-coming feds might want to build reputations for themselves without taking on the names of other feds -- forge their own legacy, you know? Now keeping titles in circulation I think is a good idea. Mostly because I love the idea of prestiege earned through time behind a belt.
But shit, NGW has probably put on the most consistently good matches for BBW. I guess the rest of us will have to step up! |
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Giant Chicken Taylor Gang


Number of posts: 2031 Age: 22 Location: Bowling Green, OH Federation(s): CBYW, REVIVAL AKA: DC Doom GBYWN Rep: 421 Registration date: 2009-01-03
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Thu May 21, 2009 9:22 pm | |
| i wouldnt have a prob letting someone else use the CBYW name if we are ever done |
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SlingBlade Bitches All Over Me


Number of posts: 3600 Age: 20 Location: Iowa GBYWN Rep: 1664 Registration date: 2009-02-18
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Thu May 21, 2009 9:26 pm | |
| It could go either way. It really depends on the fed. Generally if a fed grows a lot during its lifespan this idea would work, because the fans probably won't disappear as long as the new roster retains the old feel. It's pretty risky unless the root member can teach the new guys well, or just gets lucky and finds the right people. |
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Rad Hazard Because R-Truth so black, he look black like a monkey with his black ass.


Number of posts: 1559 Age: 24 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Federation(s): GBYWN AKA: Daniel Baldwin
Former GBYWN Chairman (11/25/09-3/19/11)
The current Battle Born Wrestling World Champion
Only ever 3-time GBYWN United States Champion
The host of Backyard Wrestling Monthly
GBYWN Rep: 573 Registration date: 2008-11-17
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Fri May 22, 2009 10:11 am | |
| | Adrian Blaqueheart wrote: | | Man, I never got to wrestle Adan. I should have seen this coming with all of the indy matches he's been uploading. Are they actually leaving backyard wrestling or are they just closing NGW so they can work indy and collaborative BYW shows more? |
Nope he's done with wrestling EXCEPT to defend the BBW World Heavyweight Championship. Only tiem will tell when he will lose that....if he hasn't already! O.o |
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Absolution ESPN Broadcaster


Number of posts: 1356 Age: 28 Location: Tucson, Arizona Federation(s): Absolute Championship Wrestling AKA: Jake Xinn GBYWN Rep: 676 Registration date: 2008-04-06
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Sat May 23, 2009 12:45 am | |
| Well the NGW name is under the control of Brad pretty much. So what exactly will go down is up in the air, until people talk with them personally. |
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Brad_Landen Baby Weight


Number of posts: 22 Age: 21 Location: West Valley City Federation(s): NGW (BYW(Closed)), ACW-Utah (Pro), AXW (Pro), UWAS (Pro), UCW-Zero (Pro) AKA: The "True Rebel",
The "Black Diamond", GBYWN Rep: 25 Registration date: 2009-05-25
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Mon May 25, 2009 3:52 am | |
| Very interesting post rad! i must say though it was not just adan running NGW i started TBW which became NGW in March of 2004, Adan did come in about August 2007 but he had been in backyards before NGW im not sure about that history you would have to ask him about that, Adan came into TBW (NGW) at a time when there where lots of flakes and guys that were getting tired or burned out with wrestling, and from there he helped me allot with many things i credit him for getting us all the video views and guys that we have had for a short time, and i must say the first time around as "Forgotten Dreams" was probably one of the best times i had doing BYW, and also the major feud we had when i turned on him which lead up to our final show of 2008 was awesome!,
he is also a big part of why we had the Salt Lake City Spring Break Showdown show and that was another highlight of my BYW as well, although i had not seen much of his stuff i had seen enough to know i wanted to work with JLV when he came and i got to!, I also got to meet Jake Xinn who does all the amazing logos and graphics for us!, everyone who came was very cool JLV, Nailz, The Rizz, & Jake Xinn thanks for coming down guys!
as far as handing over our name to another group for as cool as i think that would be, i must admit i have trust issues and it would be very hard to do at the same time, and i agree with adans reference to old ECW and WWE's product of ECW now it would never be the same to me,
Here is where it gets interesting, a large part of why NGW stopped was because Me and Adan got tired of guys not taking it seriously and not caring and we realized we had the opportunity to get on Indy pro shows so we took it, i think it really clicked for us it was time to start closing up when we sent out a mass text telling our roster and everyone who had wrestled for us that NGW was stopping for good, which initially was done to see who cared we weren't really gonna end at the point, but when we only got 1 i said 1 O-N-E!!! text back out of everyone it was from Samuel Anderson and he was like please guys don't stop, after he was the only one to respond we said maybe it really should stop, I LOVE BYW!, its where i started and im proud of it!!! every time a local guy rags on Me, Adan, or Banning i defend it 100% and we have gotten lots of heat for it, but oh well its something i believe in, in the words of a a guy who used to run pro shows here in Utah and still wrestles now as Super Destroyer he told me "I did BYW when i was young, Everyone has to start somewhere!" that made my day to know not all our guys here where jerks,
i don't wanna let to much be known yet but in about a week or 2, Me and Adan will have a big announcement to make! when we get the final bugs worked out! so look forward to that!
before i end this i would like to thank Rad Hazard i know we have never really talked much except for when i met you in Vegas, but thank you for being i believe our biggest supporter and for caring so much about what we did at least now i know our hard work didn't go to waste!, Also thanks to JLV for all the good things you have to say about us it was so cool to work with you all i have to say is thanks for all the compliments you have given us & One Day i hope to go one on one with The Lion, The Cowboy, The Hero, The Viper JLV in a pro ring on a pro show some day!
All i have to say left about NGW in wrestling Never say Never!
Thanks for all the complements and feedback about NGW!
Brad Landen |
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Absolution ESPN Broadcaster


Number of posts: 1356 Age: 28 Location: Tucson, Arizona Federation(s): Absolute Championship Wrestling AKA: Jake Xinn GBYWN Rep: 676 Registration date: 2008-04-06
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Mon May 25, 2009 4:03 am | |
| Wow that was a mouth full Brad! I am curious what these next few weeks will hold for you guys! |
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Brad_Landen Baby Weight


Number of posts: 22 Age: 21 Location: West Valley City Federation(s): NGW (BYW(Closed)), ACW-Utah (Pro), AXW (Pro), UWAS (Pro), UCW-Zero (Pro) AKA: The "True Rebel",
The "Black Diamond", GBYWN Rep: 25 Registration date: 2009-05-25
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Mon May 25, 2009 4:45 am | |
| i know huh i just got in a writing mood i started thinking k i should stop lol |
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Rad Hazard Because R-Truth so black, he look black like a monkey with his black ass.


Number of posts: 1559 Age: 24 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Federation(s): GBYWN AKA: Daniel Baldwin
Former GBYWN Chairman (11/25/09-3/19/11)
The current Battle Born Wrestling World Champion
Only ever 3-time GBYWN United States Champion
The host of Backyard Wrestling Monthly
GBYWN Rep: 573 Registration date: 2008-11-17
 | Subject: Re: Continuing the lagacy of a federation and it's titles after "death" Mon May 25, 2009 9:53 pm | |
| First of all Brad, welcome to GBYWN! Secondly, I'm glad you see what i'm trying to say about the legacy and all and yes, you have most certainty left one. |
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