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PostSubject: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:43 am

Interesting idea for a post I had. List 5 guys you would like to see WWE push, 5 guys that should be released, and 5 guys that you would like to see hired. For the ones being hired, workers already in FCW do not count, but you can use FCW workers as people that should be pushed. Here's my list:

5 people who should be pushed:
1. Yoshi Tatsu
2. Trent Barreta
3. Antonio Cesaro
4. Tyson Kidd
5. Ted Dibiase

5 people who should be released:
1. Heath Slater
2. Tyler Reks
3. Ezekiel Jackson
4. JTG
5. William Regal

5 people who should be hired:
1. Chris Hero
2. Samoa Joe
3. Kurt Angle
4. Chris Sabin
5. Colt Cabanna

I also think WWE should bring back a Cruiserweight/Light Heavyweight title. The division could consist of guys like Sin Cara, Justin Gabriel, Tyson Kidd, Yoshi Tatsu, Evan Bourne, Hunico etc.
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:55 pm

Well, this forum's been all about the numbers recently, hasn't it?

5 to Push:
1. Dean Ambrose - just in FCW, though, to see how well he can work in a WWE environment. I'm one of his most ardent supporters, and although I know a lot of people on here hate him, I think he has a lot of potential to be real over one day.
2. Wade Barret - He's been super stagnant lately, and we've seen that he has a lot of skill. If Del Rio continues to be rather lackluster as the top heel, I hope the E knocks him down a little and lets Barret take over, because he's done it before and it ruled.
3. Brodus Clay - What little I've seen of him, he's actually impressed me. And if there's any way to get him to turn face, I think a Henry/Clay feud would be much more enjoyable than Henry/Show.
4. Justin Gabriel - Another dude who kind of fell off the gravy train after Nexus. It's great to have a fresh face in the highflyers department, especially one who's a heel. I'd love to see Gabriel/Hunico vs. Air Boom on a PPV soon.
5. Michael McGillicutty - Maybe it's just because I'm a sucker for his dad, but I think McGillicutty has lots of potential. He should probably be thrown in the IC or US title scene once some faces take the belts off of Rhodes and Ziggler to see if he can really hang as a singles wrestler.

5 to Fire:
1. Alex Riley - A buddy of mine is a huge Riley fan (partly because he hates The Miz so much), and I just don't get it. The man has no charisma, no character, and his matches are the definition of bland. He does nothing but take up space and doesn't even do that well.
2. The Divas - I honestly haven't seen a Divas match that impressed or even entertained me in literally years. Even Beth and Natalya and the other Chyna rip offs are simply boring. I was hoping that Awesome Kong would breath new life into the Divas division, but she had to go get knocked up and abort any chance of having entertaining womens wrestling in the WWE.
3. Kane - The dude's been super stagnant as of late, and truthfully I don't recall the last time I saw him wrestle. More importantly, I don't recall the last time I saw him wrestle a good match. He only reinforces the idea that only big guys can get over, and he's still outshined by Henry and Show as far as that goes.
4. Half Gimmicks - JTG and Ezekiel Jackson, without their counterparts of Shad and Brian Kendrick, are nothing. They aren't even really good enough to make it on the mid or lower card and are reduced to Superstars every week. It was possible that they could've gone on without their partners, but when they kept the same exact gimmick and did the same exact things, there was no chance that they were ever going to get over.
5. Old Guys - Specifically Goldust and Regal. Neither one of them have had any success recently. I recall Regal did pretty okay in the Rumble this year, but since then, what have either of these guys done? They'd be better used as behind the scenes guys or even as FCW trainers or something, just not on the main roster.

P.S. Be thankful I didn't put Zack Ryder.

6 to Hire, because I couldn't pick just five (Hero is a given, btw):
1. Shinsuke Nakamura - This really is a long shot, but I think if anybody in Japan could get into the E (who hasn't already been there, because I'd love to see Tanaka go back, tbh), it'd be Nakamura. The dude has a great Benoit-esque style of combining grappling with strikes and suplexes that could be well used in WWE alongside Danielson. Plus Nakamura is still relatively young and has plenty of time to get used to an American style.
2. Jamie Noble - I'd love to see Jamie Noble back because he was one of the most underused talents the E has ever had. It's sad to see top ROH guys like him and Nigel go to bigger companies and get absolutely squandered. Noble would be awesome on any form of a crusierweight scene, or if nothing else, as a partner for someone like Tyson Kidd or maybe DiBiase.
3. Johnny Gargano - It would be sad to see one of the top indy guys on the scene right now go to the E so quickly, but Gargano is red hot right now and I'd love to see him take it to the next level. I recall first seeing him in the 2010 King of Trios with Damon and Louis and he impressed me even at that time, and he's done nothing but get better and better since then.
4. Willie Mack - Maybe it would be overkill to bring in another big, fast black guy when Henry is on top of the world right now, but Willie Mack is killing it in PWG right now and I'd love to see him take on the likes of Ziggler, JoMo, and Sheamus. He's my pick for top indy guy next year (like Gargano was last year), and if nothing else, a quick run through FCW would really do him good.
5. Delirious - Delirious is quite possibly one of the best workers in the indy scene right now, and he's kept ROH going on at least halfway-strong after the departure of Nigel, Danielson, Aries, and mostly everybody else who's ever mattered in the company. He'd get pretty over as a children's character and is great at jobbing and looking great doing it.
6. Tommaso Ciampa - Alongside Willie Mack, one of the guys to keep an eye on in the indy scene. He's wrestled on an ROH PPV, he's won the ECWA Super 8 Tournament, and he's got nowhere to go but up. He's got a nice cocky gimmick going on that reminds me old Randy Orton, and his in-ring abilities are pretty good, but not too flashy, just like the E likes them.

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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:54 pm

I like this concept. Im gunna add on a 5 to repackage.
5 to push:
1. Justin Gabriel
2. Drew Mcentyre
3. The Usos
4. Trent Barretta
5. Tyson Kidd
All good in the ring and entertaining. Usos could juice life into the tag division and the rest could boost the midcard


5 to fire:
1. David Otunga - he could do alot better with his whole lawyer gimmick
2. Heath Slater - never liked him
3. Tyler Reks - got gimmick jacked by trent barretta
4. Jinder Mahal - bad in the ring and cuts promos in a language nobody understands
5. JTG - sucks without shad

5 to hire:
1. Chris Hero - self explanatory
2. Colt Cabana - bound to happen
3. X-Pac - always been an X-Pac mark. Him and Nash can put a dent in the tag division
4. Kurt Angle - way to good for TNA
5. Samoa Joe - way misused by TNA

5 to repackage:
1. Ted Debiase - Fortunate Sons with Mggillicuty
2. Alex Riley - almost got the push of his life and now barely appears on superstars
3. Johnny Curtis - literally has no gimmick. he just needs something
4. Michael Mggillicuty - Fortunate Sons with Debiase
5. Curt Hawkins - never really disapproved and hes been expected to be released for a while.
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:46 pm

5 people who should be pushed:
1. Hunico/Epico/Primo
2. Michael McGillicutty
3. Ted Dibiase
4. Brodus Clay
5. David Otunga

5 people who should be released:
1. The Great Khali
2. Titus O'Neil
3. Darren Young
4. Johnny Curtis
5. Tyler Reks

5 people who should be hired:
1. Chris Hero
2. Monty Brown
3. The Young Bucks
4. Colt Cabana
5. Nigel McGuinness
6. 'The Prodigy' Mike Bennett

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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:10 pm

Joe Randa wrote:

6. 'The Prodigy' Mike Bennett


I have never been impressed by Bennett.

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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:17 pm

X-pac is hired as a talent scout or whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:24 pm

5 to be pushed:
1. Michael McGillicutty
2. John Morrison
3. Dolph Ziggler (should be the World or WWE champ by now)
4. Justen Gabriel
5. Kofi

People who should be fired:
1. Otunga
2. Sin Cara
3. Tyler Reks
4. JTG
5. Ezikel Jackson

People who should be hired:
1. Hero
2. Samoa Joe
3. WGTT
4. Davey Richards
5. Brsiceos
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:10 pm

5 doot who should be pushed:
1. What ever Claudio's new name is
2. Daniel Bryan
3. Bourne
4. Kofi
5. Morrison

5 to cut:
1. Sin cara
2. Barrett (he seems way too generic, not a fan)
3. All the Divas
4. The little spic who was the other Sin Cara
5. Alex Riley.

5 to sign
1. Chris Hero
2. Colt Cabana. it would be so smart, people are chanting the dudes name during matches. No need to try to build him up ,if he is already over
3.Bobby Fish
4. Kevin Steen
5. Pac. Guy has the size and has gotten a lot better. Would take some time to get him adjusted to their style, but he would fit well after a while.
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:27 pm

tonydeppen wrote:

2. Daniel Bryan

3.Bobby Fish


Bryan is MiTB champ right now and he's probably walking out of 'Mania as the World Heavyweight Champ. I think he's over.

In other news, BOBBY FISH.

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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:34 pm

I just want more of Daniel on tv. I was devastated when they took him off Mania.
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:57 pm

Push:
1. Yoshi Tatsu
2. Goldust
3. William Regal
4. Percy Watson
5. Husky Harris

Fire:
1. Mason Ryan
2. Michael McGillicutty
3. David Otunga
4. Heath Slater
5. Darren Young

Hire:
1. Chris Hero
2. Colt Cabana
3. Samoa Joe
4. Robert Roode
5. ALEX SHELLEY DAMMIT
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:58 am

5 to push:
1) Kofi Kingston
2) Justin Gabriel
3) Ted DiBiase
4) Tyson Kidd
5) Drew McIntyre

Honorable Mentions: The Usos, Yoshi Tatsu, Michael McGillicutty

I don't count Barrett or Bryan as Barrett's getting pushed to the sky right now and Bryan is going to likely get a massive push after Royal Rumble to lead into 'Mania.

5 to fire:
1) The Great Khali
2) Alex Riley
3) Ezekiel Jackson
4) Tyler Reks
5) JTG

Honorable Mentions: Heath Slater, David Otunga, Goldust, Mason Ryan

5 to hire:
1) Chris Hero
2) Colt Cabana
3) Samoa Joe
4) Chris Sabin
5) The Briscoes

Honorable Mentions: Kurt Angle, Austin Aeris

5 to move up to the roster from FCW:
1) Richie Steamboat - He is going to be HUGE when he finally makes it up, everything he does in FCW is extremely impressive.
2) Seth Rollins - He's been down there long enough and he's kicking ass.
3) Dean Ambrose - Ambrose has torn it up in FCW with Rollins, be good to see what he can do in WWE.
4) Husky Harris - After seeing him perform in FCW I think he was extremely underutilized during his first stint in WWE and deserves another shot.
5) Raquel Diaz (Shaul Guerrero) - Why not have Eddie's daughter moved up? Imagine what good stuff she could do with Vickie.

Honorable Mentions: Connor O'Brian, Damien Sandow, Tito Colon
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:26 am

Tito Colon is Epico i believe
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:48 am

5 to Push:
Tyson Kidd - Kidd is mega-talented. A serious Bryan/Kidd feud based on Hart/HBK as mentors would have been an AMAZING way to utilize their talents and using the US or IC title (Preferrably IC) for this feud would be an AMAZING way to get them both over. Hell a Mania match with Hart in Kidd's corner and HBK in Bryan's corner would have been the BEST finish to this.
Ted Dibiase - I can't not love TD. I just love Ted. Got a great size, backstory, personality, move set - they just really need to use him right. One of the only (possibly the only) current 2nd generation wrestlers who actually went and wrestled in Japan and worked on his skills and didn't JUST get there due to daddy.
Drew McIntyre - What happened to him? He was Vince McMahon's prodigy. The man to kill Matt Hardy. Has one of the greatest theme songs EVER. Has a great charisma and accent. Wrestles amazingly. Should be on the same level as Cody Rhodes and Dolph Ziggler. Should definitely rank higher than Jack Swagger.
Claudio (Antonio Caesario?) - One of the best big guys I've ever seen with a completely non big guy style. The type of guy I wish was more acceptable in the world of wrestling as he's the guy I'd most like to be like.
Alex Riley - They should have never turned him face. Varsity Villian was one of the BEST heel gimmicks to come out of NXT and they completely killed it before it got it's steam. Turn him back to the VV and give him back the TKO as a finisher. His lift and swing DDT is a joke in comparison.

Honorable mention: The Usos - only real tag team left in WWE. One looks like a young Rock, other like a young Rikishi... come on... MONEY RIGHT THERE!!!

5 to Fire:
Heath Slater - Guy is just fucking terrible. Cut him already. Worst to stay from any NXT.
Great Khali - Has done nothing in his career that Kane couldn't or shouldn't have done.
Sin Cara - Botchy as hell. Failed a drug test, then got injured. Couldn't work anyone on the regular roster, so they had to bring Hunico up for him to work.
Hunico - Terrible. More botchy than Sin Cara. Can't cut promos or work in the ring for shit. Cut him already. Working a wannabe LAX gimmick. Just bring in Homicide for that.
Tyler Reks - Who? I've never seen this guy do anything. Saw him in like 2 battle royals on Smackdown, and that's it. I saw him in a promo with Curt Hawkins 2x as well. Who the fuck is he and why should I care? Hell every NXT and Tough Enough competitor has more in touch with the common fan than this guy.

Honorable mention - Jack Swagger. Can't stand the guy. Wrestling ability is lackluster. Speaking ability is horrendous. All-American American? Really? Blatant rip-off of Angle kept around just to piss him off.

5 to Hire:
James Storm - Better half of every tag team he's been in. Complete work horse. Him in the old Bradshaw/Beer Money gimmick is fucking gold. Love him.
Hernandez - Dude is SO much fun to watch, does great work as a big man, and can rock the show. Honestly the only reason I would watch TNA.
Chris Hero - The fucking man. Should be in already, works a great style, entertaining as fuck. Can work with pretty much everyone.
Colt Cabana/Dan Barry - Everything writes itself for CC at this point. They both work almost the same style. Both have a "Remarkably Average" look/gimmick. Both are hilarious and great on the mic - helps that both are stand up comedians. Both can wrestle circles around most of the top tier in WWE - and can make anyone look like a great wrestler.
Tommaso Ciampa - Guy was a regular fixture at all my pro shows up until August (Right after he signed his ROH contract). One of the coolest dudes, a real power house/work horse (I've seen the guy's schedule). Hardest working guy in the business FOR REAL. Also has done several matches/cameos on WWE tv before (worked benoit as a local guy) and did an angle as Taker's lawyer or lawyer Taker beat up back in the day.

Honorable mention - The Briscoes. Best tag team outside of Kings of Wrestling (possibly better). KOW, Air Boom, Briscoes, Usos - a good core to rebuild the tag division around. Southern redneck gimmick, but done seriously, haven't seen that in WWE and would be a great change of pace.
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:40 am

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Tyson Kidd - Kidd is mega-talented. A serious Bryan/Kidd feud based on Hart/HBK as mentors would have been an AMAZING way to utilize their talents and using the US or IC title (Preferrably IC) for this feud would be an AMAZING way to get them both over. Hell a Mania match with Hart in Kidd's corner and HBK in Bryan's corner would have been the BEST finish to this.

Colt Cabana/Dan Barry - Everything writes itself for CC at this point. They both work almost the same style. Both have a "Remarkably Average" look/gimmick. Both are hilarious and great on the mic - helps that both are stand up comedians. Both can wrestle circles around most of the top tier in WWE - and can make anyone look like a great wrestler.


I salivated at the idea of a Kidd/Hart vs. Bryan/Michaels feud. Also, Dan Barry. Period.

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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:44 pm

I train with Dan Barry on occasion. good times.
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:27 pm

I'm not sure if WWE has hired him yet, I heard they did, but Tony Neese. Guy is a fucking tank and moves like a jet.
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:47 pm

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Ragnarok wrote:

Tyson Kidd - Kidd is mega-talented. A serious Bryan/Kidd feud based on Hart/HBK as mentors would have been an AMAZING way to utilize their talents and using the US or IC title (Preferrably IC) for this feud would be an AMAZING way to get them both over. Hell a Mania match with Hart in Kidd's corner and HBK in Bryan's corner would have been the BEST finish to this.

Colt Cabana/Dan Barry - Everything writes itself for CC at this point. They both work almost the same style. Both have a "Remarkably Average" look/gimmick. Both are hilarious and great on the mic - helps that both are stand up comedians. Both can wrestle circles around most of the top tier in WWE - and can make anyone look like a great wrestler.


I salivated at the idea of a Kidd/Hart vs. Bryan/Michaels feud. Also, Dan Barry. Period.


I can totally see this happening post-'Mania if they do indeed have Bryan be the first MitB winner to lose, and it would be amazing.

Have Bryan turn heel at his frustration and disappointment for losing, 'causing him to purposefully screw people over and manipulate others for his own gain for a few months. Then have Tyson Kidd stand up against him and start saying he's no better than HBK because of what he did to Brett. HBK gets involved like he's going to be the peacemaker, but Superkicks Kidd's head off. This gets Brett involved, and we finally have a blow-off at either 'Mania or SummerSlam.
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:45 pm

Tony Neese got signed by TNA, as well as Shima Xion, both worked out of NYWC. It was originally and incorrectly announced that Neese was signed by WWE. It was tna and he's on their official roster page.
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PostSubject: Re: 555 - Push/Fire/Hire   Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:14 pm

I don't really have much thoughts on it since I don't really pay much attention to the E, but I always thought they could bring in Prince Justice as a really good big guy. I hate the whole "Monster Abyss" thing, and always have. But that's just me.
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